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Jul 17, 2010 Rating The truth is out there by: Tim Unfortunately, there is no central depository for Masonic records. Lodges have records of their members. Grand Lodges have records of the members of their Lodges. But, the two sources will not necessarily have identical records. While Lodge Secretaries do their best to keep records straight and Grand Lodge Secretaries are normally quite fastidious about records keeping, things do happen over decades and centuries. Records are lost or misplaced or somehow wander off in a number of ways. This doesn't mean there won't be records for your grandparents. There most likely will be, but finding them might not be easy. I think my first stop would be the Grand Lodge of Illinois and the Grand Chapter of Illinois. http://www.ilmason.org/contact.html http://www.illoes.org/grand_secretary.htm Contact them and provide as much information as you can about your grandparents' Masonic memberships. If you're lucky enough to have old dues cards, or some sort of announcement or presentation that mentions your grandparent as an Officer that will be a big help. Otherwise, you might find mention of them in an archived newspaper article at the library or online. Family members or friends of your grandparents might also be able to help. If you have any Masonic memorabilia that belonged to your grandparents there will likely be some indication of its origin on it or written inside. Anything that you can remember will help. You might also consider contacting the Masonic Lodge or Lodges, and the Star Chapter in the area where your grandparents lived. Odds are they were members of the organizations close to home. As to your grandfather's Scottish Rite membership the Supreme Council in Washington might be able to locate his records. Here is the address for that Web site: http://www.scottishrite.org/who/contact.html However, your best bet might be to contact the Scottish Rite Valley closest to his home. It appears that there are several Valleys within Illinois. A Web search for "Scottish Rite Illinois" (without the quotes) will give you a great point to start from. It's not really as difficult as it may sound. A few letters, some phone calls and e-mails and if there are any records to be found they will be. Don't expect it to happen in a hurry, though. Odds are, records from that era will not yet be digitized so it may take some time to track them down. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to be persistent. Thank you for your question and good luck in your quest. Fraternally yours, Tim

Mar 26, 2012 Rating Searching scottish roots. by: monty simon I am looking for my Grand fathers masonic records, e.g. His age the year etc. My father George Simon was also a mason in toronto. Grand fathers name James Cobbin Jaffray. Birth place in or near to Aberdeen Scotland. Thanks [email protected]

Mar 27, 2012 Rating Help finding Mason Information on Grandfather and Uncle by: Anonymous My mother informed me that my Grandfather and Uncle were part of the Masons. My Grandfather is from the New York area. I am looking for their information. My daughter is part of the Rainbow group and I would like to get her file up to date with correct information. [email protected] Thanks

Aug 22, 2012 Rating My Grandfather was a Mason by: Debbie How can I verify my Grandfather's membership? He was born in 1875 and was a Mason both in Ontario Canada and in Buffalo New York.

Aug 29, 2012 Rating Membership Level by: Anonymous My understanding is that there are many different levels that can be achieved, how can a person find what level a mason was?

Jun 09, 2013 Rating Verification of a past mason by: Angela How can I verify my grnadfathers infomation that would verify that he was a mason in the 70's

Jun 16, 2013 Rating my grandparents were in the lodges by: Pam Morris My grandfather was a mason and my grandmother was an Eastern star. I know he was a mason until 1946 when he past away in AZ. My grandma was an Eastern star until she past away in 1970. I believe they both joined when they lived in worth, IL. this is all the information I have for them.

Jun 22, 2013 Rating How to locate a passed Mason's history by: Tim I'm sorry but I can not do this research for you. First, not being a family member the Lodges or Grand Lodges would likely not release the information to me without a very good reason. Second, I don't need to. You can do it yourself. The purpose of this page is to offer an example and explanation of how to go about researching the Masonic records of passed loved ones. It's not a service that I or anyone else can offer. 1. Gather all the information you can regarding the Masonic history of your loved one. If you're short on information contact their friends or family members who may remember or even be in possession of Masonic memorabilia. 2. If you know the Lodge or Chapter that they belonged to contact them. Most Masonic Lodges and Eastern Star Chapters, at least in the U.S., have Web sites or their contact information can be found on their Grand Lodge or Grand Chapter Web sites. Search the Web for the Lodge or Chapter. If you don't know to which Lodge or Chapter they belonged try contacting the one(s) near where they lived. Masonry is a community oriented organization and most of us join close to home. 3. If you're unable to determine or discover which Lodge or Chapter they belonged to the next step would be to contact the Grand Lodge of the State in which they lived. Just do a Web search using "Masonic Grand Lodge" and add the name of the State or province. Contact them and let them help you discover your heritage. 4. Be persistent. Most Grand jurisdictions have recent records in digital form these days, but if you're research goes back more than a generation or two those records could be in a dark corner of the basement somewhere. It could be as simple as a phone call or a few e-mails, or it could turn into quite an adventure. These same steps will work for Scottish Rite, York Rite, Eastern Star, or any other Masonic body. Just find the trail and then follow it until you find what you're looking for. Good hunting. Best of luck. And, best regards. Fraternally, Tim

Aug 04, 2013 Rating ?? by: richmond jones my mom says she heard my grandpas twin brother say he was a mason but im not sure how to verify besides goin through illinois/indiana masonic records ,any help would be greatly appreciated .frances laughlin his membership wouldve been from 1933 or higher he was born on 10/10/1915 twins with marion my grampa

Aug 05, 2013 Rating It's your Masonic journey by: Tim It sounds like you have a pretty good start on the information you'll need to begin your search. Just contact the Grand Lodges of Illinois and Indiana and see what they can do to assist you. Here are their Web addresses: Grand Lodge of Indiana: WWW.IndianaFreemasons.com Grand Lodge of Illinois: WWW.ILMason.org Best regards, Tim

Aug 28, 2014 Rating finding grandfather's information by: Granddaughter My grandfather, who I never met due to a car accident before I was born, was a Mason. He lived in Southern California. I know others have received help on here, do you have any suggestions on looking for information on him in California? Thanks! [email protected]

Aug 28, 2014 Rating Masonic Granddaughter by: Tim Dear Granddaughter, The Grand Lodge of California will be your best source of information on your Grandfather. If you have any information as to which lodge he was a member of that would help, but it's shouldn't be necessary. Just contact them and ask for their help in researching your Masonic family history. I'm sure they will be happy to help in whatever way they can. Below is the Web address for the Grand Lodge of California: https://www.freemason.org/index.htm Best of luck in your search and thanks for visiting Masonsmart.

Sep 08, 2014 Rating Granddaughter by: Thane Grand Lodge of California. http://www.freemason.org/index.htm Good luck with your research.

Sep 16, 2014 Rating Eastern Star by: Linda I remember that my grandmother in Arlington Heights and Mount Prospect Illinois was in the Eastern Star. I remember her having a star pin she would where when she went to a meeting. This is way back in the late 60s early 70 since she passed away in 1972. I do not have a pin number nor the pin so I am hoping someone can help me in the search for me. Thanks All Or email me at [email protected] Linda

Sep 22, 2014 Rating For Linda by: Thane A good starting place: http://www.iloes.org/contact-us/ Good luck.

Jul 06, 2015 Rating Verification by: Robert Gurd I'm interested in my Grandfathers masonic membership George Wesley Dell Three Springs, Pa. my Email is [email protected]

Jul 07, 2015 Rating Masonic records search for George Wesley Dell by: Tim Hello Robert and thank you for visiting Masonsmart. It looks like the nearest lodge to Three Springs is Cromwell Lodge #572 in Orbisonia, PA. I would suggest starting there. You can find contact information for the Lodge Secretary at the Web address below: http://lims.pagrandlodge.org/lodges/view/572 If that doesn't work out try expanding your search by contacting the Grand Lodge of Free & Accepted Masons of Pennsylvania. They keep records on a State level so if your Grandfather was a member of a Pennsylvania Lodge they will most likely have a record of it. Their Web address is below: http://www.pagrandlodge.org/ Hope this helps. Good luck in your search, and thanks again for visiting Masonsmart. Sincerely, Tim

Jun 18, 2016 Rating Fathers History by: Rene As a child my father told me he was a Mason and would show me his rings/garment and told when I'm older I should join OES. As an adult I currently want to join the OES but don't recall any of my father's information to create a petition. He passed away in my teens and I don't know what lodge he belonged to or if he was in good standing. All I know is that he's from NY and moved to the west coast to create a family with my mother.

Jul 28, 2016 Rating Looking for chapter name where my mom attend by: Carmen JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS THE CHAPTER Name OF THE EASTER STARS THAT WAS ON FULLERTON ST IN NEWARK NJ

Jul 28, 2016 Rating OES Grand Chapter of NJ by: Tim Hello Carmen, and thank you for visiting Masonsmart. I think your best and surest bet to find the information you're looking for will be contacting the Grand Chapter of the Order of Eastern Star in New Jersey. Here's the Web address for their site: http://www.njoes.com/ Just give them a call or e-mail. I'm sure they will be happy to assist you. Thanks again for visiting and please come again.

Aug 02, 2016 Rating Lodge 348 Yoakum Texas by: Anonymous My g g uncle belonged to the Yoakum, Texas lodge no 348. He was a chartered member. The lodge is no longer active. I would like to see if they have any photos or information on him. Who can I contact?

Aug 04, 2016 Rating "Lost" Lodge by: Ken Sir, I am writing because I recently found out that my Great Great Grandfather was a "Worshipful Master" of the Lodge in Iola, Illinois number 691. The problem with that, is the fact that the town has been devastated by floods, fire, and tornado's over the years since he was alive. AND to top all of that off...the town is pretty much non existent now, save a few houses and a church. (The "town" itself is gone-meaning no buildings left). By reading some of the other comments, I'm going to assume that you are going to direct me to the Grand Lodge in Illinois, or a lodge in a neighboring town (which there is one) but I wanted to check first...or you might have other ideas. I really appreciate your time in answering my question(s), and thank you in advance for your help. Ken

Aug 07, 2016 Rating Good assumption, but also... by: Tim Hello Ken, and thank you for visiting Masonsmart. Your assumption is correct. Your best source of information regarding an Illinois Lodge or an Illinois Mason will be the Grand Lodge of Illinois. Your idea of contacting a neighboring lodge is also excellent. There may be someone there who knows or has access to a more detailed history of the lodge in Iola than even the Grand Lodge. You might also try the local or nearby public library. A lot of historical information has been converted into micro-fiche or digital form and, while it may be a long-shot, it could also be a treasure trove. Thanks again for the visit. Please come again. Fraternally, Tim

Aug 07, 2016 Rating Lost history of Lodge 348 in Yoakum, TX by: Tim Dear Anonymous in Yoakum, Odds are that when Lodge 348 in Yoakum became inactive it consolidated with a nearby lodge. If that is the case their historical documents should have been transferred to the new lodge along with the memberships of the remaining active members. I would suggest contacting the Grand Lodge of Texas to find out what became of Lodge 348. While the Grand Lodge may not have a lot of information they should be able to offer some direction in tracking down someone who will. Best of luck and good hunting. Thanks for visiting Masonsmart. Fraternally, Tim

May 03, 2017 Rating He was a 33 degree mason by: James Benjamin smith My grandfather was a 33 degree mason in the cereal springs Illinois in the 1915 area his name was James Benjamin Smith and my grandmother was a member of eastern star

May 09, 2017 Rating James Benjamin Smith by: Tim Congratulations on your Masonic family history. If you are seeking more information I would suggest the Grand Lodge of Illinois at this address: http://www.ilmason.org/site/GrandLodgeIllinois Or the Prince Hall Grand Lodge at this address: http://www.mwphglil.com/ Thank you for visiting Masonsmart and we wish you the very best.

Jun 03, 2017 Rating NY Mason? by: Nancy Hi, I just found out my great grandfather and great uncle were masons on Staten Island, NY. Is there a way I can find out where they belonged? I cant seem to find a lodge on Staten Island. This would have been in the 1920s to 1950s or so. Thank you!

Jun 06, 2017 Rating Re: NY Mason? by: Tim Hello Nancy, and thank you for visiting Masonsmart. Congratulations on the discovery of your Masonic family history. Your best bet would be to contact the Grand Lodge of New York. Barring some sort of disaster (fire, flood, carelessness, etc.) they should have records for your Great Grandfather and Great Uncle. Below is the Web address for their Contact Us page: https://nymasons.org/2016/contact-us/ I wish you the very best of luck in your search. With kind regards, Tim

Jul 09, 2017 Rating Where to start? by: Lisa bishop I have a paper from 1790 of a Thomas Polk a regular master mason lodge 258. It does not say where, although most of my people come from the Mecklnberg area. Where would you suggest I start. Looks like 258 in 1790 was devolved? Thank Lisa

Aug 02, 2017 Rating Re: Where to start. by Lisa Bishop by: Tim Hello Lisa, and thank you for visiting Masonsmart. I can't find anything using the spelling Mecklnberg, or Mecklenberg, or Mecklinberg. So, I can't offer much in the way of specific direction. However, the place to start most Masonic searches is with the Grand Lodge of the Masonic jurisdiction you're interested in. If you are in the U.S. each State is a Masonic jurisdiction. Just do a Web search on the term, Masonic Grand Lodge and add the name of the State. Look for the contact information on the Web site and that's where you start. I wish you well.. It sounds like it could be an interesting journey. Good luck with it. Fraternally, Tim

Nov 26, 2017 Rating Dedication coin help by: Melanie Wilson Hello, we found a Masonic coin wording as follows " new Masonic temple millersburg Ohio Sept 30 1979" I can't find anything info on this coin. Michael Patterson. Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Melanie Wilson

Nov 26, 2017 Rating RE: Dedication coin help by: Tim Hello Melanie, and thank you for visiting Masonsmart. I see what you mean. A search on that phrase returns absolutely nothing useful. Here's my best suggestion. There is an active lodge in Millersburg, Ohio: Spartan Lodge #126. However, I can find no direct contact information for Spartan Lodge. You'll need to contact the Grand Lodge of Ohio and request contact information for someone at Spartan Lodge. Below is the Web address for the Grand Lodge of Ohio Contact page: http://www.freemason.com/contact/ You might also include your query regarding the coin when you contact the Grand Lodge. They may have some readily available information on it. You never know. Thanks again for visiting Masonsmart. Hope this proves useful to you. Fraternally, Tim www.Masonsmart.com

Mar 02, 2018 Rating Information of a past Shriner by: Nancy My grandfather was a 32nd degree Mason and passed away in 1940. He had a Shriner's ring made up for my Grandmother and it was passed along to me. I had it sized and the jewelry store's manager somehow "lost it". I was six at the time and devistated. My parents tried to get the information to get a replacement but there was a major fire (don't remember when the fire occurred) in South Carolina, I believe, where I understand the records were kept and all records were burned. Is there any way I can find any information on him so that I can reproduce the ring? Thank you. [email protected]

Mar 14, 2018 Rating Re: Information of a past Shriner by: Tim Hello Nancy, and thank you for visiting Masonsmart. I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your Grandmother's ring. I wear my Grandpa's Masonic ring and I don't know what I'd do if something were to happen to it. Masonic records are generally kept in two places. The Grand Lodge of the jurisdiction keeps records for all members, and each Lodge keeps records only for the members of that Lodge. However, as your Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Mason and a Shriner they should have records, as well. The Scottish Rite and Shrine records may only indicate which Lodge he was a member of, but that will, hopefully, be the exact information you need. If you haven't already, I would suggest contacting the Grand Lodge of South Carolina (at the Web address below) and confirm that their records for your Grandfather were lost. If the records were lost your next goal will be to contact the individual Lodge which held his membership. Hopefully, the Grand Lodge can assist you in figuring out which Lodge that was. If they can't help then it's time to do a little sleuthing. Try to figure out which Scottish Rite Valley and which Shrine he belonged to. The Web address for the Scottish Rite Orient of South Carolina is below. The Scottish Rite Supreme Council in Washington D.C. should also have records for him. It appears there are at least three Shrine Temples in SC. Just do a Web search for South Carolina Shriners. Locate the Shrine Temple closest to where your Grandfather lived and contact them. If they have no record of his membership then ask them for contact information for the other Temples in South Carolina. It's possible that one of the above organizations will have all the information you need, but more likely that they will have only the name and number of the Lodge your Grandfather belonged to. But, assuming that Lodge is still active in some fashion, they will have more detailed records. Also, most Masons keep a collection of Masonic items that are meaningful to them. It may just be a few items kept in a drawer, or it could be a room full of books and memorabilia. But most of us have our Masonic stuff and in that stuff, there's almost always something with the Lodge name and number included. You might check with other family members and see if any of your Grandfather's Masonic items were passed down to them or if they know what might have become of them. I know it sounds like a lot of digging but hopefully, it won't take all that I've described to find the information you need. I wish you luck. I commend you on your determination to recreate this tangible attachment to your Grandparents. And, if we can be of further assistance please don't hesitate to call on us again. Fraternally yours, Tim Grand Lodge of South Carolina AFM: https://www.scgrandlodgeafm.org/ Scottish Rite Orient of South Carolina: http://www.scscottishrite.com/ Supreme Council Scottish Rite: https://scottishrite.org/

Apr 25, 2018 Rating Grandfather's membership by: Sheri Hudkins Donaldson Trying to verify that my grandfather, Arkie Graves Hudkins Sr, was in fact a member. My grandmother would only say that she didn't like the organization he belonged to because he would never tell her anything about it. When he died she would not allow anything symbolic put on his gravestone. She did say that members showed up at gravesite services and all had on carpenter's belts. Any info would be appreciated. Thank you

Jul 08, 2018 Rating Grandfather's membership by: Tim Dear Sheri Hudkins Donaldson, Thank you for visiting Masonsmart.com Your best bet will be to contact the Grand Lodge of the Masonic jurisdiction in which your grandfather lived. Do a Web search on the words, Masonic Grand Lodge and include the name of the state your grandfather lived in. Once you've found the Website for the Grand Lodge, look for their contact information and reach out to them for help in researching your Masonic family history. All Grand Lodges keep records of Masons within their jurisdiction and family history is not an uncommon request so they will know how to help. Thanks again for visiting and I wish you good luck in your search. Fraternally yours, Tim

Aug 06, 2018 Rating Hi by: Brandon lee mares Who is my masonic bloodline

Sep 04, 2018 Rating gustav pfaff by: stephen pfaff my dad said that grandpa (gustav pfaff) and he were members of eastern star lodge #3 in philidelphia pennsylvaina and I cant find any such lodge or anything pertaining to gus pfaff or dad (Robert pfaff) any help would be very much appreciated...God bless and have a great day

Sep 21, 2018 Rating We failed by: Les Hart We used to be proud honorable organization that did what was right . Now you people take everything we built and share it like it meant nothing . We take good men and make them better . those days are over.Its a shame what has happened to us .

Feb 22, 2019 Rating Looking for my father record by: Anonymous I WAS TOLD MY FATHER WAS A MASONS HIS NAME IS LIST PAGE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BACK IN THE 60TH OR EARLY 70 TH PLEASE LRET ME KNOW Karen Page [email protected]

Feb 22, 2019 Rating Finding father’s records by: Tharn Ms Page, you might try contacting the grand lodge of the state he lived in. Good luck

Mar 15, 2019 Rating Did the Mason's send people to europe? by: Anonymous My Great Grandfather was a Mason in Lynchburg, Virginia. He was born in 1877. We have a photo of him with his Mason uniform and was told that he went to an European county to be knighted.(?)What would this be about? Do not understand this. Also where we find records of him being a mason? Thank you so much.

Mar 15, 2019 Rating Odd by: Tharn Sadly, there is no central listing or records office for Freemasons. Your best bet to find Masonic records of your great grandfather would be through the Grand Lodge of Virginia. https://grandlodgeofvirginia.org/ They might have something on your ancestor, but it would likely be limited only to his Masonic membership. I am unaware of any Masonic group in America sending people to Europe, in the sense I think you mean. (It is possible he might have gone there for, say, a convention.) There are a couple of Masonic offshoots which use the term ‘knights’, but again, this is nothing I can see having to go all the way to Europe for. Good luck in your research.

May 03, 2019 Rating Confirming Individuals Membership Truth by: scott stewart Hi, an acquaintance (Peter X- NSW - AUstralia) claimed to be an active member participant of the Freemason Association. Without wanting to pry intensively and to avoid seeming like I wanted to access trade secrets, is there any way I can confirm his membership. Otherwise, I am going to defend your reputation and call him out for being a liar.

May 03, 2019 Rating Hello by: Bob First off, I have removed the individual's last name as we should not get into back-and-forth claims here. There is no central registry of Masonic membership and this site is based in the USA. There is a Grand Lodge of New South Wales and the Australian Capital territory. Their link is: https://www.masons.org.au/ It is possible that they might be able to help you.

Jun 29, 2019 Rating Myterious Grandpa by: Anonymous My grandfather was a freemason. He wore his ring but wouldn't really talk about. He move to canada from scotland in the early 1950's. He was in his early 20's when he moved to Canada. Always thought that older men were freemasons. He also didn't/wouldn't speak of Scotland. I don't know how he was able to become one and with a common name like Francis Graham - it'd ben impossible to find info on him.

Jun 29, 2019 Rating Mysterious by: Bob I would suggest that you contact the grand lodge in the province he lived in at the time. The address will be on the net. Good luck.

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Sep 24, 2020 Rating My grand father was free masons what degree was he by: Carl getlin My grandfather was a free masons would like to know what degree he was my grand mother was Eastern Star

Sep 24, 2020 Rating To Carl Getlin by: Bob There is no central record of members. You would have to contact the grand lodge with jurisdiction in the area your grandfather lived. If he lived in the USA, each state has its own grand lodge and contact information for all is listed on the internet.If overseas, some places have grand lodges at the state or province level, while other grand lodges have a grand lodge for an entire nation. When you get in touch with them, be prepared to provide your grandfather's full name, date of birth and, if possible, some rough idea where he was living at the time. Good luck.

Oct 21, 2020 Rating Understanding... by: Anonymous If anyone knows any information or how I could get information about my Great Grandfather I’d appreciate it. I always knew what my grandfather did was important but being that he had had a stroke by the time I could really start remembering things I just never saw the relevance. Thinking back there never were stories or any details in which I am sure there were plenty. My Grandfather, Max Westerman Jr., was the first pilot for the Texas Rangers. I, again, never understood how important of a job that actually is. He was the only pilot for several years...on call 7days/week 24hrs/day. Things have occurred in my life lately. Unexplainable things and tonight it all started to come together. If anyone can steer me in the right directions or has guidance I would greatly appreciate it.

Oct 22, 2020 Rating Sorry for your loss by: Bob I wish I could give you more information, but (the great story about your ancestor's piloting aside) you haven't given us much to go on. This is of course a Masonic site and, even there, all we can do with such requests is to advise you to contact the grand lodge for the jurisdiction he lived in. If he was a Freemason, they would have a record of him. It wouldn't be detailed, for we are not a genealogical group, but it would have some basic details. Contact info for the grand lodge can be found by asking 'Freemason + the location'. Good luck.

Oct 22, 2020 Rating Searching for my ggrandfather by: Barbara Davidson N. I know my GGrandfather William Bell Davidson was a member of Lodge #8 in Tamaha, I.T.(1894?-1906) (now Oklahoma) but I'm hoping to find information that would give me his place of birth and perhaps his parents' names.

Oct 22, 2020 Rating To Ms Davidson by: Bob There are no central records for Freemasonry, I’m afraid. Have you tried to contact either that lodge or the grand lodge for that state?

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